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Government Shutdown News/Discussion

Trump is such a a baby. Crazy thing, he said that a shutdown was a tough look on the President (before he got in office). He's had like three.
Aint no way Republicans giving up power

Mike Johnson said Trump enjoys trolling

Meanwhile ppl ain't getting paid
 
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Crazy, wonder how long this one will last
The gist I got was that the Project 2025 people are running the show now and have a plan in place to make it go on indefinitely:

I don't see how gutting "democratic agencies" and then blaming Democrats is a winning strategy though. Perhaps that's why they are encouraging Trump to take a back seat so that they can cut agencies w/o coming across as partisan?

They are trying to do the European playbook (they targeted Trump districts with tariff responses) but since Republicans are in charge of closing agencies winners/losers, I don't see how they come across as blameless. It's like an abusive husband saying "Look what you made me do" after he beats his wife.
 
I don't see how gutting "democratic agencies" and then blaming Democrats is a winning strategy though. Perhaps that's why they are encouraging Trump to take a back seat so that they can cut agencies w/o coming across as partisan?
i mean, let's be honest. the average american's reaction to government shutdowns is :unimpressed:

only thing to really do here is paint trump as a fake negotiator, who can't negotiate shit
 
He should pray for the president's health


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BREAKING: The guy who sent the House home for the week claims he’s praying government reopens without them.

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SPEAKER JOHNSON SAYS PRAYING FOR A VERY SHORT SHUTDOWN
 
The gist I got was that the Project 2025 people are running the show now and have a plan in place to make it go on indefinitely:

I don't see how gutting "democratic agencies" and then blaming Democrats is a winning strategy though. Perhaps that's why they are encouraging Trump to take a back seat so that they can cut agencies w/o coming across as partisan?

They are trying to do the European playbook (they targeted Trump districts with tariff responses) but since Republicans are in charge of closing agencies winners/losers, I don't see how they come across as blameless. It's like an abusive husband saying "Look what you made me do" after he beats his wife.
They believe the juice is worth the squeeze. The people that voted republican will never look to hold them accountable. Their personal identity is tied up being anti democrat and anti woke. They'll rationalize why the republicans had to do this.
 
The congressional leaders couldn’t contain their concern. Essential government services were at risk. Needy children could suffer. Disaster preparedness was under threat.

“You’re talking about women, infants and children who rely upon these supplemental nutrition programs that are now not being funded and being shut down,” Speaker Mike Johnson lamented on the Fox Business Network. “They are affecting FEMA services in the middle of the hurricane season.”

Never mind that Mr. Johnson led Republicans this year in pushing through legislation to slash nutrition assistance programs as part of the party’s marquee tax cut law, or that President Trump has taken an ax to FEMA grants during his first months in office.

In the upside-down political messaging surrounding the shutdown fight, conservative Republicans, usually eager to assail government largess, have transformed themselves into enthusiastic evangelists for federal spending and programs. It is part of a bid by the G.O.P. to maximize the pressure on Democrats, who routinely advocate for government workers and services, to relent in the spending battle.

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'This presidency is failing us' : Military families hitting up food pantries amid shutdown​


Travis Gettys

October 8, 2025 8:47AM ET

'This presidency is failing us' : Military families hitting up food pantries amid shutdown



U.S. President Donald Trump points a finger from behind a bulletproof glass during a Navy 250 Celebration in Norfolk, Virginia, U.S. October 5, 2025. REUTERS/Jonathan Ernst

Military families are hitting up food pantries as they brace for missed paychecks after President Donald Trump floated the possibility that some federal workers might not get paid during the government shutdown.

Service members got paid Oct. 1, but their families are stockpiling food and lining up potential loans in case their next paychecks don't arrive on Oct. 15 as scheduled, reported CNN.

“We should never put our troops in this position,” said one military spouse. “We should never put their families in this position. The economy for military spouses is tough enough as it is.”

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Trump signed a law during the longest government shutdown in 2019 ensuring that federal workers would receive back pay during funding lapses, but his current Office of Management and Budget issued a new memo stating that Congress must decide whether to dole out paychecks covering those periods.

“There are some people that don’t deserve to be taken care of, and we’ll take care of them in a different way,” Trump said Tuesday during a White House event, but he backtracked a bit when asked about the law he signed. “I follow the law, and what the law says is correct.”

Military children have already had their after-school programs and activities – "even homework club," according to one parent – canceled by the funding lapse, which has created problems for parents trying to juggle work schedules with child care.

“We are out of the workforce in higher numbers because of the military lifestyle, not by choice,” said one military spouse. “So, we don’t have that cushion of a second income always. It’s not a guarantee.”

The organization overseeing Department of Defense schools has sent out guidance exempting extracurricular activities from the shutdown, allowing them to resume this week, but military families have had their routines disrupted and driven parents to wait in long lines at food pantries in case they go for extended periods without pay.

“Regardless of who is in office, I will always respect the office of the presidency,” said one military spouse, who also served in the armed forces. “However, I do feel like this presidency is failing us. I feel, instead of being united, we’re being divided, and I feel like supporting the troops should be a bipartisan issue, period.”

Another military spouse criticized Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who has publicly blamed Democrats for the shutdown, for ordering senior military leaders to travel at taxpayer expense from all over the globe to deliver a highly political message alongside the president.

“How are you going to bring all these top leaders in to talk about — ‘Hey, don’t be fat and shave’ — then the next day, the government shuts down?” that spouse said. “You are basically telling these people, ‘Okay, now you’re not going to get paid and you are going to get kicked out if you don’t shave.’”

Hegseth conceded that a prolonged shutdown could cut into some training exercises – which could cost service members paychecks and prevent them from maintaining necessary certifications – and families also fear a lengthy funding pause could impact the future for their children, especially older teens.

“Seniors need these activities for college applications, which are in full swing right now, and many kids earn scholarships for college from their sports performance,” said one military spouse. “Kids were counting on being recruited, and for some, that is their only path to college.”
 
[Nope] Republican C-SPAN caller to Mike Johnson: " I have two medically fragile children ... If we see a lapse in pay come the 15th, my children do not get the medication that's needed for them to live their life because we live paycheck to paycheck."



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Your understanding would be incorrect. It's not "clean" just because they say it is. If ACA subsidies are not included, Dems are going to continue to vote no - it's very simple.
ACA subsidies are about funding the government...why? because it's a Democrat priority? this is exactly why "lose for palestine" was so fucking stupid; the countless domestic issues that were more important

everyone is not on Obamacare; it is not universal healthcare :childplease: the Dems COULD vote for the CR and reopen the government, and then negotiate. it's fine if this is partisan, but stop pretending it isn't

also, maybe the fact that we have to throw so much money at this fuckin program to keep it viable, means that it's really not that good :mjlol:
 
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ACA subsidies are about funding the government...why? because it's a Democrat priority? this is exactly why "lose for palestine" was so fucking stupid; the countless domestic issues that were more important

everyone is not on Obamacare; it is not universal healthcare :childplease: the Dems COULD vote for the CR and reopen the government, and then negotiate. it's fine if this is partisan, but stop pretending it isn't

also, maybe the fact that we have to throw so much money at this fuckin program to keep it viable, means that it's really not that good :mjlol:
Your hiatus clearly hasn't helped you be more informed I see. There are tens of millions of people who are on Obamacare, if their premiums increase in price, guess who else's premiums are also going to increase.
 
Your hiatus clearly hasn't helped you be more informed I see. There are tens of millions of people who are on Obamacare, if their premiums increase in price, guess who else's premiums are also going to increase.
you're being a partisan hack. the Democrats could vote for the CR, open the government, and then negotiate Obamacare

they're choosing not to, to stick it to Trump, because their base sees them as weak and powerless, and this is a use of the little power they have. and all of that is fine; but just own it :dahell:

and again; i wish there had been more of this talk when "fuck every other issue, let's lose for Palestine out of spite" was the prevailing sentiment on the far left last year. seems like that was pretty stupid in hindsight, but i haven't seen too much ownership
 
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Your hiatus clearly hasn't helped you be more informed I see. There are tens of millions of people who are on Obamacare, if their premiums increase in price, guess who else's premiums are also going to increase.
this was what the Dems said when the Republicans pulled this same move in 2023. so what's the difference now :mjlol: is she describing herself or not?



in 2024, americans didn't vote to keep Dems in power, to oversee Obamacare, given the horrendous decision to let Biden run again, and the economy. it is what it is
 
you're being a partisan hack. the Democrats could vote for the CR, open the government, and then negotiate Obamacare

they're choosing not to, to stick it to Trump, because their base sees them as weak and powerless, and this is a use of the little power they have. and all of that is fine; but just own it :dahell:

and again; i wish there had been more of this talk when "fuck every other issue, let's lose for Palestine out of spite" was the prevailing sentiment on the far left last year. seems like that was pretty stupid in hindsight, but i haven't seen too much ownership

this was what the Dems said when the Republicans pulled this same move in 2023. so what's the difference now :mjlol: is she describing herself or not?



in 2024, americans didn't vote to keep Dems in power, to oversee Obamacare, given the horrendous decision to let Biden run again, and the economy. it is what it is

Per the usual, you're all over the place.

You literally just posted a tweet above about R's underestimating D's caving. I'm going to let you use a little common sense and and answer your own questions about why that makes them nervous. Might have something to do with several R's who'd also like to see those subsidies covered. Wonder why R's would care about something you've deemed as solely being a D agenda.
 
Per the usual, you're all over the place.

You literally just posted a tweet above about R's underestimating D's caving. I'm going to let you use a little common sense and and answer your own questions about why that makes them nervous. Might have something to do with several R's who'd also like to see those subsidies covered. Wonder why R's would care about something you've deemed as solely being a D agenda.
i don't feel obligated to defend the ACA because obama came up with it. it basically turned into dumping the burden of health care for the poor, on awful middle class premiums. and most of its "success" comes from the fact that it doesn't compete with anything :dead:

the republicans are clowns who can't do better, but i'm not impressed by obamacare anymore. this desperation to throw huge amounts of money at it, or it tanks, is a terrible look
 
you're being a partisan hack. the Democrats could vote for the CR, open the government, and then negotiate Obamacare

they're choosing not to, to stick it to Trump, because their base sees them as weak and powerless, and this is a use of the little power they have. and all of that is fine; but just own it :dahell:

and again; i wish there had been more of this talk when "fuck every other issue, let's lose for Palestine out of spite" was the prevailing sentiment on the far left last year. seems like that was pretty stupid in hindsight, but i haven't seen too much ownership
Nah they don't trust the Republicans, and they shouldn't. CR would run out right before Thanksgiving..... Conservatives would delay until the latter part of holiday season and ACA subsidies would expire. And when those prices rise in November, Mike Johnson nem will blame Dems
 
Nah they don't trust the Republicans, and they shouldn't. CR would run out right before Thanksgiving..... Conservatives would delay until the latter part of holiday season and ACA subsidies would expire. And when those prices rise in November, Mike Johnson nem will blame Dems
but those are covid era subsidies. they were designed to expire the whole time :mindblown:
 
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