Would You Consider Christianity "Pagan"?

[SirReginald]

I ask this because I was once a Christian and I respect them.

The reason for this thread is because Christians commune and eat the flesh (cracker) and drink the blood (grape juice or wine) of Jesus. Also, they believe he is Gd in the flesh. Would that be considered Pagan? If you think about it.....

 

[MMS]

i dont know tbh

but i do know that if you contemplate it with the command not to drink wine in the tent of meeting

Leviticus 10:9 Hebrew Text Analysis

it will make you question how duality interacts with singularity as distinct ideas that are joined

IE the first thing Noah did when exiting the ark is start a vineyard. If everyone rests then we're all drunk off our own wine

interestingly the word for "meeting" can mean "Appointed time" and "definite time" and "assembly" in some places

Hebrew Concordance: mō·w·‘êḏ -- 161 Occurrences

the other lense thats concerning is this here

Genesis 49:6 Hebrew Text Analysis

however the word Jacob uses is not the same when referencing the "assembly"

 

[KingSol81]

I completely see how you get there but, ultimately it boils down to faith in your beliefs, so if Jesus is the physical manifestation of God on earth then Jesus is God and it's not paganism because of that but, if they're wrong then yeah it would qualify as paganism by definition.

Jesus is God is where Christianity loses me but I never would want to discourage anyone from having a relationship with God, even if they're beliefs of what is God differ from mine.

It's an interesting thought excercise for sure, kinda hurting my brain tbh cause even if Jesus is not God a Christian isn't gonna find that out til it's all said and done for them so are they actually a pagan if they've only been practicing paganism unknowingly?? I dunno.

Edit - I still find it hard to reconcile the trinity being considered monotheistic, I'm also not a Christian tho.

 

[MMS]

I completely see how you get there but, ultimately it boils down to faith in your beliefs, so if Jesus is the physical manifestation of God on earth then Jesus is God and it's not paganism because of that but, if they're wrong then yeah it would qualify as paganism by definition.

Jesus is God is where Christianity loses me but I never would want to discourage anyone from having a relationship with God, even if they're beliefs of what is God differ from mine.

It's an interesting thought excercise for sure, kinda hurting my brain tbh cause even if Jesus is not God a Christian isn't gonna find that out til it's all said and done for them so are they actually a pagan if they've only been practicing paganism unknowingly?? I dunno.

Edit - I still find it hard to reconcile the trinity being considered monotheistic, I'm also not a Christian tho.

Jesus said to love the Lord Your God with all your heart mind and soul

and if he is jewish he is talking about Hashem Eloheka

Genesis 27:20 Hebrew Text Analysis

with this context it is obvious why this is true

It says that Isaac blessed Jacob (while he we was wearing Esau's armor)

and when Isaac asked him how he had gotten it so easily (the meal) he said because "Isaac's God" brought it to him

and because we know Rebekah made the meal, Isaac despite being blind is part of a strange happening.

now as far as the trinity, that was a contemplative tool agreed upon at the council of nicaea it was never something that Paul, Peter or Jesus mentioned in the gospels

So if you say like the Orthodox: The Holy Spirit (breath) proceeds from the father and the son also proceeds from the father but the holy spirit does not proceed from the son. The issue is with Jesus Barabbas IMO. Its a short passage but it says that Pilate's wife was disturbed by a dream

Matthew 27:19

19 When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.

@Koichos are there other testimonies of women in the Bible (Torah or Talmud) having their dreams interpreted?