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What Made You A Pan-African?

SirReginald

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TBH, I became a Pan-African when I started reading articles on different countries within the continent. It's what made me buy an RBG Flag. Also, Malcolm X truly changed me as a person and owning his Autobiography.
 
When I was younger it was the teachings of Rasta that made me a pan african

But as I got older and learned more about Africa I saw how it couldn’t work
 
Why don't you think it can't work?

Africans on the continent don’t see themselves as one people.

Descendants of our holocaust have to see ourselves as one people for survival in the west. Our situation is unique.

You can’t tell a Nigerian they are the same as a Ghanian the same you can’t tell a German they are the same as a Belgian.

Pan Africanism is an unrealistic utopian ideal
 
Africans on the continent don’t see themselves as one people.

Descendants of our holocaust have to see ourselves as one people for survival in the west. Our situation is unique.

You can’t tell a Nigerian they are the same as a Ghanian the same you can’t tell a German they are the same as a Belgian.

Pan Africanism is an unrealistic utopian ideal
True
 
Africans on the continent don’t see themselves as one people.

Descendants of our holocaust have to see ourselves as one people for survival in the west. Our situation is unique.

You can’t tell a Nigerian they are the same as a Ghanian the same you can’t tell a German they are the same as a Belgian.

Pan Africanism is an unrealistic utopian ideal

We aren't the same people in the west.
We just have a shared history.
Different regions in the US have different genetic makeups.
This is obvious if u the type to peep phenotypes when u travel.

U niggas funny thinking we'll ever have a seat in the big house.
How many times these cacs have 2 demonstrate dey not interested in sharing power?

Africa is our literal coli.
Begging these pinks for a spot never ends well.
 
I’ma coon cause I’m not repping another continent? Where tf is your family from? :ufdup:

Florida nigga!
5+ generations skrong!
Also got people from SC.
Try that tether shit on me.

U on koon time because u shittin on the ONLY land mass on earth that black people have a chance of controlling 💯%
Twerkin for uncle sam like he bout to throw u more crumbs 🇺🇸

The west done made u niggas cucks
 
Florida nigga!
5+ generations skrong!
Also got people from SC.
Try that tether shit on me.

U on koon time because u shittin on the ONLY land mass on earth that black people have a chance of controlling 💯%
Twerkin for uncle sam like he bout to throw u more crumbs 🇺🇸

The west done made u niggas cucks

 
History and just reading in general
Shit like the Ta Bom
Realizing that Africa has a better chance of getting out of Imperialism than myself as a Black American ever will

Realizing that the average African in Africa probably isnt anti Black
 
Africans on the continent don’t see themselves as one people.

Descendants of our holocaust have to see ourselves as one people for survival in the west. Our situation is unique.

You can’t tell a Nigerian they are the same as a Ghanian the same you can’t tell a German they are the same as a Belgian.

Pan Africanism is an unrealistic utopian ideal
Yes

But Africa as a whole can mostly try to move on one accord like Europe
 
Breh just leave the thread.

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I was young.
Been aware of things that actually mattered since my early 20s.

Started off political - believing all the BS I was fed since a jit.
Then I started kickin it with muslims 😈
I appreciate them because they helped me grow by becoming hyper aware of the type of society I was living in.
Started to question old beliefs I once held & it was a wrap.

Theirs a reason Khalid Muhamad is my avatar.
Early 20s me ain't stand a chance 😂
I consider the man my teacher.



 
The Pan Africans that i have met in person always seem really confused and alittle angry . Do you guys feel this help you figure out who you are?
 
We aren't the same people in the west.
We just have a shared history.
Different regions in the US have different genetic makeups.
This is obvious if u the type to peep phenotypes when u travel.


U niggas funny thinking we'll ever have a seat in the big house.
How many times these cacs have 2 demonstrate dey not interested in sharing power?

Africa is our literal coli.
Begging these pinks for a spot never ends well.
If you saying black Americans aren't the same as island niggas and afro latinos I agree.

You saying black Americans from different regions aren't from the same ethnic group or related then you're a clown and a perfect representation of why black Americans should be anti-pan African.

Modern pan Africans = black Americans bad, all other blacks good

How do we benefit from that self hating ideology?
 
To answer the question, just being born in the belly of the beast was enough.

The more important question is why are so many black Americans that used to be pan african minded now repping FBA, ADOS, FREEDMEN, SOULAAN, and so on.:sass2:
 
If you saying black Americans aren't the same as island niggas and afro latinos I agree.

You saying black Americans from different regions aren't from the same ethnic group or related then you're a clown and a perfect representation of why black Americans should be anti-pan African.

Modern pan Africans = black Americans bad, all other blacks good

How do we benefit from that self hating ideology?

We aren't the same people, (tribes) in the sense we literally descend from various groups of people.

*The Carolinas & Ga to some extent have a dominant component from Sierra Leone & other coastal west African people, (Theirs a reason the Carolinas was once considered the rice coast)

*Mississippi/Louisiana people have dominant genetic inputs from the Sahel groups (Blues ain't pop outta nowhere)

We're related because we've intermixed with one another enough to make that issue mute - but we definitely don't all come from the same stock of people.
Especially in the south with all it's pockets of isolated people's.

Get out yo feelings - the history is the history.
My worldview is different than urs.
The ones who get it - get it.
The ones who are detrimental to us as a collective will continue to get dunked on.

Ain't playin favorites.Even with my own.
 
We aren't the same people, (tribes) in the sense we literally descend from various groups of people.

*The Carolinas & Ga to some extent have a dominant component from Sierra Leone & other coastal west African people, (Theirs a reason the Carolinas was once considered the rice coast)

*Mississippi/Louisiana people have dominant genetic inputs from the Sahel groups (Blues ain't pop outta nowhere)

We're related because we've intermixed with one another enough to make that issue mute - but we definitely don't all come from the same stock of people.
Especially in the south with all it's pockets of isolated people's.

Get out yo feelings - the history is the history.
My worldview is different than urs.
The ones who get it - get it.
The ones who are detrimental to us as a collective will continue to get dunked on.

Ain't playin favorites.Even with my own.
The origins of the Africans brought here is irrelevant when you factor in the domestic slave south.

Most black Americans from the deep south(Louisiana, Bama, Sip) have roots in the upper south(Carolinas, Virginias, Kentucky).

Even less relevant when you factor in basically every black American in the west, Midwest, and east coast have roots in the south, even if they have slavery roots from outside of the south. It's all mixed in at this point.
 
The origins of the Africans brought here is irrelevant when you factor in the domestic slave south.

Most black Americans from the deep south(Louisiana, Bama, Sip) have roots in the upper south(Carolinas, Virginias, Kentucky).

Even less relevant when you factor in basically every black American in the west, Midwest, and east coast have roots in the south, even if they have slavery roots from outside of the south. It's all mixed in at this point.

That was my entire point.

We're too intermixed with other groups to pinpoint exact origins.
Here's the thing tho..

That doesn't apply to everybody.
Geechi populations deep in the woods from say Sc to central Fl are definitely exceptions to that rule.
Blacks from Ms & La too, that's why I highlighted them - blacks from the southern Gulf literally have more ancestrally in common with carribeans than they do blacks from other regions of the US.
Do u know how Louisiana became a slave colony? Or where the French got their slaves from to populate the place for that matter?
Many didn't even come directly from the continent, (Africa).

Basically southern blacks are genetically more homogeneous than non southern blacks, (erase culture from your mind - I'm talking ancestry).
Which makes sense because groups outside the south were the one's who migrated.

You do realize the Gulf states are called that for a reason right? They have ports.Purchasing slaves from out of colony auctions did happen but not how you're describing it.

Southern blacks who've lived in the same areas since slavery buck that trend.That's why it's easier for us to pinpoint specific groups we're related to directly from Africa.
(Only the ones interested in stuff like ancestral genealogy).

We the same, but we not the same.
We don't all have the same family stories.
Some of our families have been here since before the US was the US.
Some of our families were late comers (outlawed slave trade)

This logic also applies to the rest of the black diaspora so don't think I'm just singling us out.

Some of us are lucky enough to have cultural continuity/retention like this
 
That was my entire point.

We're too intermixed with other groups to pinpoint exact origins.
Here's the thing tho. blacks from the southern Gulf literally have more ancestrally in common with carribeans than they do blacks from other regions of the US.
Do u know how Louisiana became a slave colony? Or where the French got their slaves from to populate the place for that matter?
Many didn't even come directly from the continent, (Africa).


You do realize the Gulf states are called that for a reason right? They have ports.Purchasing slaves from out of colony auctions did happen but not how you're describing it.
Black Americans aren't intermixed with anyone. If anything more black Americans left the states to live in the Caribbean and latin America than vice versa. Them niggas is mixed with us if anything.

The only thing Black Americans in the southern Gulf have in common with Caribbean blacks is that we both come from Africa. We do not descend from them niggas, man. I promise you we don't.:pachah:

The black Americans in Louisiana came directly from Africa and other parts of the south, not no caribbean islands. Them niggas were worked to death down there. It didn't even make sense for a white American slave owner to purchase slaves from down there when they had the domestic slave trade here.

Where that nigga @IllmaticDelta at when you need him?:snoop:
 
The only thing Black Americans in the southern Gulf have in common with Caribbean blacks is that we both come from Africa. We do not descend from them niggas, man. I promise you

The black Americans in Louisiana came directly from Africa and other parts of the south, not no caribbean islands. Them niggas were worked to death down there. It didn't even make sense for a white American slave owner to purchase slaves from down there when they had the domestic slave trade here.

Some slaves were imported from the Caribbean to North America, mostly in New England and the Mid Atlantic, before all of those states banned slavery throughout the 1830s. So, a minority of Black Americans - mostly those who've got ancestors that were enslaved in the North - do technically descend from Caribbean blacks. However, that was before any Caribbean cultural identity had really formed. They were enslaved African people transported from the Caribbean, whose cultural identity was still African at that time.
 
My pops was a pan african and growing up he's the one that put the seed in my mind of all the pro black shit i believe now. I used to think as a kid he was just and old racist black dude, but he would always tell me to read history.

When I told him I went to Africa for the first time he told me he was proud of me. He never been before but growing up he also told us Africa is where we belong.
 
The Pan Africans that i have met in person always seem really confused and alittle angry . Do you guys feel this help you figure out who you are?
I don't think I've met any angry pan africans. They're not angrier than any other black people :yeshrug:
 
Some slaves were imported from the Caribbean to North America, mostly in New England and the Mid Atlantic, before all of those states banned slavery throughout the 1830s. So, a minority of Black Americans - mostly those who've got ancestors that were enslaved in the North - do technically descend from Caribbean blacks. However, that was before any Caribbean cultural identity had really formed. They were enslaved African people transported from the Caribbean, whose cultural identity was still African at that time.
That number was extremely miniscule and irrelevant, and like you said, they were African anyway. I got receipts on deck to prove the numbers were miniscule but don't feel like digging.

People usually only mention it in order to pry black American culture away from us.
 
Black Americans aren't intermixed with anyone. If anything more black Americans left the states to live in the Caribbean and latin America than vice versa. Them niggas is mixed with us if anything.

The only thing Black Americans in the southern Gulf have in common with Caribbean blacks is that we both come from Africa. We do not descend from them niggas, man. I promise you we don't.:pachah:

The black Americans in Louisiana came directly from Africa and other parts of the south, not no caribbean islands. Them niggas were worked to death down there.

It didn't even make sense for a white American slave owner to purchase slaves from down there when they had the domestic slave trade here.

Where that nigga @IllmaticDelta at when you need him?:snoop:

U can't be serious.
The entire African diaspora is inter - ethnically mixed. Location be damned.
We live within proximity of one another.It's impossible for us not to be.

& professor artificial intelligence disagree's with u

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Bra.. the white american slave owners u conjuring up were newly arrived colonials they damn selves.
Learn the history 1st bra.

I'm not saying we don't come from Africa.
We do.
I'm saying alot of us have vastly different origin stories of how we came to be in these lands.

That's mostly what I meant when I said we're not all the same.
 
To answer the question, just being born in the belly of the beast was enough.

The more important question is why are so many black Americans that used to be pan african minded now repping FBA, ADOS, FREEDMEN, SOULAAN, and so on.:sass2:
Because we see how some Africans and Caribbeans talk about us
 
Coming in a Pan-African thread to debate is nasty and vile

Its other threads for that
This is why I say these dudes are full of shit. This whole movement has nothing to do with ethnic pride, reparations, delineation, or whatever they say their issues are.

This is just an excuse for them to find a reason to argue on the internet with strangers while their personal lives are in shambles :pachaha:
 
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